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- To start Neovim, run `nvim` (not `neovim`).
- If something broke after upgrading, check [Breaking Changes](https://neovim.io/doc/user/news.html#news-breaking).
- `:checkhealth` detects and resolves many of the problems in this FAQ. Try it!
---
# General Questions
### Where should I put my config (`vimrc`)?
See [`:help config`](https://neovim.io/doc/user/starting.html#vimrc).
You can copy your existing vimrc, or symlink to it. [`:help nvim-from-vim`](https://neovim.io/doc/user/nvim.html#nvim-from-vim)
### How stable is the development (pre-release) version?
The [unstable (pre-release)](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/releases/tag/nightly) version of Neovim ("HEAD", i.e. the `master` branch) is used to aggressively stage new features and changes. It's usually stable, but will occasionally break your workflow. We depend on HEAD users to report "blind spots" that were not caught by automated tests.
Use the [stable (release)](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/releases/latest) version for a more predictable experience.
### Can I use Ruby-based Vim plugins (e.g. [LustyExplorer](https://github.com/sjbach/lusty))?
Yes, starting with Neovim 0.1.5 [PR #4980](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pull/4980) the legacy Vim `if_ruby` interface is supported.
### Can I use Lua-based Vim plugins (e.g. [neocomplete](https://github.com/Shougo/neocomplete.vim))?
No. Starting with Neovim 0.2 [PR #4411](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pull/4411) Lua is built-in, but the legacy Vim `if_lua` interface is not supported.
### How can I use "true color" in the terminal?
Add this to your `init.vim`:
```vim
set termguicolors
```
* See [this gist](https://gist.github.com/XVilka/8346728) for more information.
* See [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/neovim/comments/825dj7/the_endless_litany_of_tmux_and_nvim_color_problems/dvc2boh/) for guidance on how to check your system capabilities.
### Nvim shows weird symbols (`<60>[2 q`) when changing modes
This is a bug in your terminal emulator. It happens because Nvim sends cursor-shape termcodes by default, if the terminal appears to be xterm-compatible (`TERM=xterm-256color`).
To workaround the issue, you can:
- Use a different terminal emulator
- Disable `guicursor` in your Nvim config:
```
:set guicursor=
" Workaround some broken plugins which set guicursor indiscriminately.
:autocmd OptionSet guicursor noautocmd set guicursor=
```
See also `:help $TERM` for recommended values of `$TERM`.
### How to change cursor _shape_ in the terminal?
- For Nvim 0.1.7 or older: see the note about `NVIM_TUI_ENABLE_CURSOR_SHAPE` in `man nvim`.
- For Nvim 0.2 or newer: cursor styling is controlled by the `guicursor` option.
- To _disable_ cursor-styling, set `guicursor` to empty:
```
:set guicursor=
" Workaround some broken plugins which set guicursor indiscriminately.
:autocmd OptionSet guicursor noautocmd set guicursor=
```
- If you want a non-blinking cursor, use `blinkon0`. See `:help 'guicursor'`.
- `guicursor` is enabled by default, unless Nvim thinks your terminal doesn't support it. If you're sure that your terminal supports cursor-shaping, set `guicursor` in your init.vim, as described in `:help 'guicursor'`.
- The Vim terminal options `t_SI` and `t_EI` are ignored, like all other `t_XX` options.
- Old versions of libvte (gnome-terminal, roxterm, terminator, ...) do not support cursor style control codes. [#2537](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/2537)
### How to change cursor _color_ in the terminal?
Cursor styling (shape, color, behavior) is controlled by `guicursor`, even in the terminal.
Cursor _color_ (as opposed to shape) **_only_** works if `termguicolors` is set.
`:help 'guicursor'` gives an example, but here's a more complicated example which sets different colors in insert-mode and normal-mode:
```vim
:set termguicolors
:hi Cursor guifg=green guibg=green
:hi Cursor2 guifg=red guibg=red
:set guicursor=n-v-c:block-Cursor/lCursor,i-ci-ve:ver25-Cursor2/lCursor2,r-cr:hor20,o:hor50
```
### Cursor style isn't restored after exiting or suspending and resuming Nvim
Terminals do not provide a way to query the cursor style. Use autocommands to manage the cursor style:
```vim
au VimEnter,VimResume * set guicursor=n-v-c:block,i-ci-ve:ver25,r-cr:hor20,o:hor50
\,a:blinkwait700-blinkoff400-blinkon250-Cursor/lCursor
\,sm:block-blinkwait175-blinkoff150-blinkon175
au VimLeave,VimSuspend * set guicursor=a:block-blinkon0
```
### Cursor shape doesn't change in tmux
tmux decides that, not Nvim. See [:help tui-cursor-shape](https://neovim.io/doc/user/term.html#tui-cursor-shape) for a fix.
See [#3165](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pull/3165) for discussion.
### Cursor flicker in tmux?
If cursor `_` appears and disappears very quickly when opening nvim without
a document under tmux, and you set `ctermbg` in `EndOfBuffer` and `Normal`, try setting these to `NONE`:
```
hi EndOfBuffer ctermbg=NONE ctermfg=200 cterm=NONE
hi Normal ctermbg=NONE ctermfg=200 cterm=NONE
```
### How to use the Windows clipboard from WSL?
**Update:** Try the suggestion given by [:help clipboard-wsl](https://neovim.io/doc/user/provider.html#clipboard-wsl):
let g:clipboard = {
\ 'name': 'WslClipboard',
\ 'copy': {
\ '+': 'clip.exe',
\ '*': 'clip.exe',
\ },
\ 'paste': {
\ '+': 'powershell.exe -c [Console]::Out.Write($(Get-Clipboard -Raw).tostring().replace("`r", ""))',
\ '*': 'powershell.exe -c [Console]::Out.Write($(Get-Clipboard -Raw).tostring().replace("`r", ""))',
\ },
\ 'cache_enabled': 0,
\ }
#### Old instructions...
To use the Windows clipboard from within WSL, [`win32yank.exe`](https://github.com/equalsraf/win32yank) has to be on our `$PATH`.
If Neovim is installed on both Windows and within the WSL distribution, the `win32yank.exe` binary provided by the Neovim Windows installation can be symlinked to a directory included in our `$PATH` so it can be found by Neovim on WSL. Replace `$NEOVIM_WIN_DIR` with the path to our Neovim Windows installation, e.g. `/mnt/c/Program Files/Neovim`. The command can then be symlinked using:
sudo ln -s "$NEOVIM_WIN_DIR/bin/win32yank.exe" "/usr/local/bin/win32yank.exe"
On some versions of Windows, WSL is unable to execute symbolic links to Windows executables ([microsoft/WSL#3999](https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/3999)). In that case, use one of the methods in [#12113 (comment)](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/12113#issuecomment-612827446).
If Neovim is only installed within our WSL distribution, we can just install `win32yank.exe` manually:
curl -sLo/tmp/win32yank.zip https://github.com/equalsraf/win32yank/releases/download/v0.0.4/win32yank-x64.zip
unzip -p /tmp/win32yank.zip win32yank.exe > /tmp/win32yank.exe
chmod +x /tmp/win32yank.exe
sudo mv /tmp/win32yank.exe /usr/local/bin/
In either case, don't forget to set Neovim's clipboard to `unnamedplus` using `set clipboard=unnamedplus` to make Neovim use the system's (i.e Window's) clipboard by default.
If it does not work, you can debug it using `:checkhealth` to identify any issues, e.g., there could be xclip installed and taking precedent over win32yank.
See also [#6227](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/6227) for more information.
### What happened to --remote and friends?
The code for that family of command-line arguments was removed. It may eventually be reimplemented using the Neovim API, but until then [`neovim-remote`](https://github.com/mhinz/neovim-remote) can be used instead.
See [#1750](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/1750) for more information.
# Runtime issues
### Copying to X11 primary selection with the mouse doesn't work
`clipboard=autoselect` is [not implemented yet](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/2325). You may find this workaround to be useful:
vnoremap <LeftRelease> "*ygv
vnoremap <2-LeftRelease> "*ygv
### My CTRL-H mapping doesn't work
This was fixed in Neovim **0.2**.
If you are running Neovim **0.1.7 or older**, adjust your terminal's "kbs" (key_backspace) terminfo entry:
```
infocmp $TERM | sed 's/kbs=^[hH]/kbs=\\177/' > $TERM.ti
tic $TERM.ti
```
(Feel free to delete the temporary `*.ti` file created after running the above commands).
### `<Home>` or some other "special" key doesn't work
Make sure `$TERM` is set correctly.
- For screen or tmux, `TERM` should be `screen-256color` (_Not_ `xterm-256color`)
- In other cases if "256" does not appear in the string it's probably wrong. Try `TERM=xterm-256color`.
### `:!` and `system()` do weird things with interactive processes
Interactive commands are supported by `:terminal` in Neovim. But `:!` and `system()` do not support interactive commands, primarily because Neovim UIs use stdio for msgpack communication, but also for performance, reliability, and consistency across platforms (see [`:help gui-pty`](http://vimhelp.appspot.com/gui_x11.txt.html#gui-pty)).
See also [#1496](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/1496) and [#8217](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/8217#issuecomment-402152307).
### Python support isn't working
Run `:checkhealth` in Nvim for automatic diagnosis.
Other hints:
- The python `neovim` module was renamed to `pynvim` (long ago).
- If you're using pyenv or virtualenv for the [`pynvim` module](https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pynvim/), you must set `g:python3_host_prog` to the virtualenv's interpreter path.
- Read [`:help provider-python`](https://neovim.io/doc/user/provider.html#provider-python).
- Be sure you have the **latest version** of the `pynvim` Python module:
```sh
python -m pip install setuptools
python -m pip install --upgrade pynvim
python3 -m pip install --upgrade pynvim
```
- Try with `nvim -u NORC` to make sure your config (`init.vim`) isn't causing a problem. If you get `E117: Unknown function`, that means [Neovim can't find its runtime](#neovim-cant-find-its-runtime).
### `:checkhealth` reports `E5009: Invalid $VIMRUNTIME`
This means `health#check()` couldn't load, which suggests that `$VIMRUNTIME` or `&runtimepath` is broken.
- `$VIMRUNTIME` must point to Neovim's runtime files, not Vim's.
- The `$VIMRUNTIME` directory contents should be readable by the current user.
- Verify that `:echo &runtimepath` contains the $VIMRUNTIME path.
- Check the output of:
```
:call health#check()
:verbose func health#check
```
### Neovim can't find its runtime
This is the case if `:help nvim` shows `E149: Sorry, no help for nvim`.
Make sure that `$VIM` and `$VIMRUNTIME` point to Neovim's (as opposed to Vim's) runtime by checking `:echo $VIM` and `:echo $VIMRUNTIME`. This should give something like `/usr/share/nvim` resp. `/usr/share/nvim/runtime`.
Also make sure that you don't accidentally overwrite your runtimepath (`:set runtimepath?`), which includes the above `$VIMRUNTIME` by default (see `:help 'runtimepath'`).
### `E518: Unknown option: [option]`
Some very old/unnecessary options have been removed from Neovim. See [`:help nvim-features-removed`](http://neovim.io/doc/user/vim_diff.html#nvim-features-removed) for the complete list.
### Neovim is slow
#### Use a fast terminal emulator
- [kitty](https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty)
- [alacritty](https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty)
#### Use an optimized build
`:checkhealth nvim` should report one of these "build types":
```
Build type: RelWithDebInfo
Build type: MinSizeRel
Build type: Release
```
If it reports `Build type: Debug` and you're building Neovim from source, see [Building Neovim#building](Building-Neovim#building).
### Colors aren't displayed correctly
Ensure that `$TERM` is set correctly. See [:help $TERM](https://neovim.io/doc/user/term.html#$TERM) for recommended values.
From a shell, run `TERM=xterm-256color nvim`. If colors are displayed correctly, then export that value of `TERM` in your user profile (usually `~/.profile`):
```
export TERM=xterm-256color
```
If you're using `tmux`, instead add this to your `tmux.conf`:
set -g default-terminal "tmux-256color"
For GNU `screen`, [configure your `.screenrc`](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNU_Screen#Use_256_colors):
term screen-256color
**Note:** Neovim ignores `t_Co` and other terminal codes.
### Neovim can't read UTF-8 characters
Run the following from the command line:
```
locale | grep -E '(LANG|LC_CTYPE|LC_ALL)=(.*\.)?(UTF|utf)-?8'
```
If there's no results, then you might not be using a UTF-8 locale. See the following issues: [#1601](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/1601) [#1858](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/1858) [#2386](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/2386)
### `ESC` in tmux or GNU Screen is delayed
This is a [common problem](https://www.google.com/?q=tmux%20vim%20escape%20delay)
in `tmux` / `screen` (see also [tmux/#131](https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/131#issuecomment-145853211)). The corresponding timeout needs to be tweaked to a low value (10-20ms).
`.tmux.conf`:
set -g escape-time 10
# Or for tmux >= 2.6
set -sg escape-time 10
`.screenrc`:
maptimeout 10
#### "Why doesn't this happen in Vim?"
It *does* happen (try `vim -N -u NONE`), but *if you hit a key quickly after ESC* then Vim interprets the ESC as ESC instead of ALT (META). You won't notice the delay unless you closely observe the cursor. The tradeoff is that Vim won't understand ALT (META) key-chords, so for example `nnoremap <M-a>` won't work. ALT (META) key-chords always work in Nvim. See also `:help xterm-cursor-keys` in Vim.
Nvim 0.3 mimics the Vim behavior while still fully supporting ALT mappings. See `:help i_ALT`.
### `ESC` in GNU Screen is lost when mouse mode is enabled
This happens because of [a bug in screen](https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?60196): in mouse mode, screen assumes that `ESC` is part of a mouse sequence and will wait an unlimited time for the rest of the sequence, regardless of `maptimeout`. Until it's fixed in screen, there's no known workaround for this other than double-pressing escape, which causes a single escape to be passed through to Nvim.
### Calling `inputlist()`, `echomsg`, … in filetype plugins and `autocmd` does not work
[#10008](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/10008), [#10116](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/10116), [#12288](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/12288), [# vim/vim#4379](https://github.com/vim/vim/issues/4379).
This is because Nvim sets `shortmess+=F` by default. Vim behaves the same way
with `set shortmes+=F`. There are plans to improve this, but meanwhile as
a workaround, use `set shortmess-=F` or use `unsilent` as follows.
```vim
unsilent let var = inputlist(['1. item1', '2. item2'])
autocmd BufNewFile * unsilent echomsg 'The autocmd has been fired.'
```
### `g:clipboard` settings are not used.
If the clipboard provider is already loaded, you will need to reload it after configuration. Use the following configuration.
```vim
let g:clipboard = { 'name' : … }
if exists('g:loaded_clipboard_provider')
unlet g:loaded_clipboard_provider
runtime autoload/provider/clipboard.vim
endif
```
Or, if you want automatic reloading when assigning to `g:clipboard`, set `init.vim` as follows.
```vim
function! s:clipboard_changed(...) abort
if exists('g:loaded_clipboard_provider')
unlet g:loaded_clipboard_provider
endif
runtime autoload/provider/clipboard.vim
endfunction
if !exists('s:loaded")
call dictwatcheradd(g:, 'clipboard', function('s:clipboard_changed'))
endif
let s:loaded = v:true
```
# Installation issues
### Generating helptags failed
If re-installation fails with `Generating helptags failed`, try removing the previously installed runtime directory (if `CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX` is not set during building, the default is `/usr/local/share/nvim`):
```
# rm -r /usr/local/share/nvim
```
# Build issues
### General build issues
Run `make distclean && make` to rule out a stale build environment causing the failure.
### Settings in `local.mk` don't take effect
CMake caches build settings, so you might need to run `rm -r build && make` after modifying `local.mk`.
### CMake errors
`configure_file Problem configuring file`
This is probably a permissions issue, which can happen if you run `make` as the root user, then later run an unprivileged `make`. To fix this, run `rm -rf build` and try again.
### Anaconda error
Error message:
`anaconda3/bin/x86_64-conda_cos6-linux-gnu-cc: not found`
Solution:
`conda install gxx_linux-64` or `conda deactivate`
# Develop
### Plugins
- [nvimdev.nvim](https://github.com/neovim/nvimdev.nvim): Diagnostic integration with Lua/C + Neovim codebase
- [helpful.vim](https://github.com/tweekmonster/helpful.vim): get the version of Vim/Neovim where a feature was introduced.
- [Neomake](https://github.com/neomake/neomake): Async linting
- [deoplete.nvim](https://github.com/Shougo/deoplete.nvim): auto-completion
- [deoplete-clang2](https://github.com/tweekmonster/deoplete-clang2): clang2 completion support for deoplete.nvim
- [coc.nvim](https://github.com/neoclide/coc.nvim/): auto-completion, code navigation
- [nvim-cmp](https://github.com/hrsh7th/nvim-cmp): auto-completion
### Tools
- [croissant](https://github.com/giann/croissant) is a Lua REPL
# Debug
### Backtrace (Linux)
Core dumps are [disabled by default on Ubuntu](http://stackoverflow.com/a/18368068/152142), CentOS and others. To enable core dumps:
ulimit -c unlimited
On systemd-based systems getting a backtrace is as easy as:
coredumpctl -1 gdb
It's an optional tool, so you may need to install it:
sudo apt install systemd-coredump
The **full backtrace** is most useful, send us the `bt.txt` file:
2>&1 coredumpctl -1 gdb | tee -a bt.txt
thread apply all bt full
**On older systems** a `core` file will appear in the current directory. To get a backtrace from the `core` file:
gdb build/bin/nvim core 2>&1 | tee backtrace.txt
thread apply all bt full
### Backtrace (macOS / OSX)
If `nvim` crashes, you can see the backtrace in Console.app (under "Crash Reports" or "User Diagnostic Reports" for older macOS versions).
open -a Console
You may also want to enable core dumps on macOS. To do this, first make sure the `/cores/` directory exists and is writable:
```console
sudo mkdir /cores
sudo chown root:admin /cores
sudo chmod 1775 /cores
```
Then set the core size limit to `unlimited`:
```console
ulimit -c unlimited
```
Note that this is done per shell process. If you want to make this the default for all shells, add the above line to your shell's init file (e.g. `~/.bashrc` or similar).
You can then open the core file in `lldb`:
```console
lldb -c /cores/core.12345
```
Apple's documentation archive [has some other useful information](https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/technotes/tn2124/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/DTS10003391-CH1-SECCOREDUMPS), but note that some of the things on this page are out of date (such as enabling core dumps with `/etc/launchd.conf`).
### Using `gdb` to step through functional tests
Use `TEST_TAG` to run tests matching busted tags (of the form `#foo` e.g. `it("test #foo ...", ...)`):
```
GDB=1 TEST_TAG=foo make functionaltest
```
Then, in another terminal:
```
gdb build/bin/nvim
target remote localhost:7777
```
- See also [test/functional/helpers.lua](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/blob/3098b18a2b63a841351f6d5e3697cb69db3035ef/test/functional/helpers.lua#L38-L44).
### Using `lldb` to step through unit tests
```
lldb .deps/usr/bin/luajit -- .deps/usr/bin/busted --lpath="./build/?.lua" test/unit/
```
### Using `gdb`
To attach to a running `nvim` process with a pid of 1234:
gdb -tui -p 1234 build/bin/nvim
The `gdb` interactive prompt will appear. At any time you can:
- `break foo` to set a breakpoint on the `foo()` function
- `n` to **step over** the next statement
- `<Enter>` to repeat the last command
- `s` to **step into** the next statement
- `c` to **continue**
- `finish` to **step out** of the current function
- `p zub` to print the value of `zub`
- `bt` to see a **backtrace** (callstack) from the current location
- `CTRL-x CTRL-a` or `tui enable` to **show a TUI view of the source file** in the current debugging context. This can be extremely useful as it avoids the need for a gdb "frontend".
- `<up>` and `<down>` to scroll the source file view
#### gdb "reverse debugging"
- `set record full insn-number-max unlimited`
- `continue` for a bit (at least until `main()` is executed
- `record`
- provoke the bug, then use `revert-next`, `reverse-step`, etc. to rewind the debugger
### Using `gdbserver`
You may want to connect multiple `gdb` clients to the same running `nvim` process, or you may want to connect to a remote `nvim` process with a local `gdb`. Using `gdbserver`, you can attach to a single process and control it from multiple `gdb` clients.
Open a terminal and start `gdbserver` attached to `nvim` like this:
gdbserver :6666 build/bin/nvim 2> gdbserver.log
`gdbserver` is now listening on port 6666. You then need to attach to this debugging session in another terminal:
gdb build/bin/nvim
Once you've entered `gdb`, you need to attach to the remote session:
target remote localhost:6666
In case gdbserver puts the TUI as a background process, the TUI can become unable to read input from pty (and receives SIGTTIN signal) and/or output data (SIGTTOU signal). To force the TUI as the foreground process, you can add
signal (SIGTTOU, SIG_IGN);
if (!tcsetpgrp(data->input.in_fd, getpid())) {
perror("tcsetpgrp failed");
}
to tui.c:terminfo_start.
### Using `gdbserver` in `tmux`
Consider using a [custom makefile](Building-Neovim#custom-makefile) to quickly start debugging sessions using the `gdbserver` method mentioned above. This example `local.mk` will create the debugging session when you type `make debug`.
```make
.PHONY: dbg-start dbg-attach debug build
build:
@$(MAKE) nvim
dbg-start: build
@tmux new-window -n 'dbg-neovim' 'gdbserver :6666 ./build/bin/nvim -D'
dbg-attach:
@tmux new-window -n 'dbg-cgdb' 'cgdb -x gdb_start.sh ./build/bin/nvim'
debug: dbg-start dbg-attach
```
Here `gdb_start.sh` includes `gdb` commands to be called when the debugger starts. It needs to attach to the server started by the `dbg-start` rule. For example:
```
target remote localhost:6666
br main
```
### Log file location
Nvim's low-level logs are written to `~/.local/share/nvim/log` (usually; see `:help $NVIM_LOG_FILE`).
Debug builds write INFO-level messages to this log file. You can specify the location with the `$NVIM_LOG_FILE` environment variable. Non-debug builds only log ERROR-level messages.
# Design
### Why not use JSON for RPC?
- JSON cannot easily/efficiently handle binary data
- JSON specification is ambiguous: http://seriot.ch/parsing_json.php
### Why embed Lua instead of X?
- Lua is a very small language, ideal for embedding. The biggest advantage of Python/Ruby/etc is their huge collection of libraries, but that isn't relevant for Nvim, where Nvim _is_ the "batteries included" library: introducing another stdlib would be redundant.
- Lua 5.1 is a _complete_ language: the syntax is frozen. This is great for backwards compatibility.
- **Nvim also uses Lua _internally_ as an alternative to C.** Extra performance is useful there, as opposed to a slow language like Python or Vim9script.
- LuaJIT is one of the fastest runtimes on the planet, 10x faster than Python and ["Vim9script"](https://vimhelp.org/vim9.txt.html), 100x faster than Vimscript.
- Python/JS cost more than Lua in terms of size and portability, and there are already numerous Python/JS-based editors. So Python/JS would make Nvim bigger and less portable, in exchange for a non-differentiating feature.
See also:
- [Why Lua](https://web.archive.org/web/20150219224654/http://blog.datamules.com/blog/2012/01/30/why-lua/)
- [Redis and scripting](http://oldblog.antirez.com/post/redis-and-scripting.html)
- [The Design of Lua](https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2018/11/232214-a-look-at-the-design-of-lua/fulltext)
- [Luajit performance](https://julialang.org/benchmarks/), [performance guide](http://wiki.luajit.org/Numerical-Computing-Performance-Guide), [luajit not yet implemented](http://wiki.luajit.org/NYI)
- [Discussion of JavaScript vs Lua](https://github.com/vim/vim/pull/5198#issuecomment-554693754)
- [Discussion Python embedding](https://lobste.rs/s/pnuak4/mercurial_s_journey_reflections_on#c_zshdwy)
### Why Lua 5.1 instead of Lua 5.3+?
Lua 5.1 is a different language than 5.3. The Lua org makes breaking changes with every new version, so even if we switched (not upgraded, but _switched_) to 5.3 we gain nothing when they create the next new language in 5.4, 5.5, etc. And we would lose LuaJit, which is far more valuable than Lua 5.3+.
Lua 5.1 is a complete language. To "upgrade" it, add libraries, not syntax. Nvim itself already is a pretty good "stdlib" for Lua, and we will continue to grow and enhance it. Changing the rules of Lua gains nothing in this context.
### Will Neovim translate Vimscript to Lua, instead of executing Vimscript directly?
- _Update (2016):_ [PR #243](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pull/243) implements the Vimscript-to-Lua translator. But it is blocked by [technical concerns](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pull/243#issuecomment-153318119). Much of the work in that PR was re-used/re-purposed (viz. [`typval_T`/`vim_to_object` refactor](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pull/4607), [`eval.c` refactor](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pull/5119)).
- _Update (2023):_ We are experimenting with [vim9jit](https://github.com/tjdevries/vim9jit) to transpile Vim9script (Vim9's Vimscript variant) to Lua and have used this to [port Vim9 plugins](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pull/21662) to Nvim Lua.
### Are plugin authors encouraged to port their plugins from Vimscript to Lua? Do you plan on supporting Vimscript indefinitely? ([#1152](https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/1152))
We don't anticipate any reason to deprecate Vimscript, which is a valuable [DSL](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain-specific_language) for text-editing tasks. Maintaining Vimscript compatibility is less costly than a mass migration of existing Vim plugins.
Porting from Vimscript to Lua just for the heck of it gains nothing. Neovim is emphatically a *fork of Vim* in order to leverage the work already spent on thousands of Vim plugins, while enabling *new* types of plugins and integrations.
See [`:h faq`](https://neovim.io/doc/user/faq.html#faq).